By Lee Bemrose
“Dark
psy for me is the ultimate dancefloor music. The drive and power it
has is perfect for long energetic dancefloor sessions. It is music
that is not about social interaction or standing around bopping away
with a beer in your hand, but about full trance experience. It really
allows me to go deep inside myself, leave my mind behind and lead
with my soul.”
Several years ago I struck up a
conversation with a random person on a dancefloor in Sydney. Her name
was Kobie, and she was the DJ's girlfriend. The DJ was playing a live
set of dark psy.
The girl's name is still Kobie, she is still Rory's girlfriend, but since then they have relocated to Byron Bay, Rory has released numerous tracks as well as his own album, Revolved, and together Rory and Kobie have brought baby Arlo into the world.
The girl's name is still Kobie, she is still Rory's girlfriend, but since then they have relocated to Byron Bay, Rory has released numerous tracks as well as his own album, Revolved, and together Rory and Kobie have brought baby Arlo into the world.
What
were you doing before you sat down to answer these questions?
I was
just walking around my property picking dandelion flowers to prepare
for a floral wine. Oh, and dealing with a teething baby.
When
did you adopt the name Satori, and what were your reasons for doing
it?
I first
came across the concept of Satori while reading a book about Zen
Buddhism, at the same time my partner was reading a fantasy novel
where the main character was named Satori. In Zen Buddhism, satori
refers to the experience of Kensho,
or seeing into one’s true nature. It is often translated as a
sudden, momentary glimpse of enlightenment.
This was
the idea I wanted to convey through my music. I love the way that
dancing for hours in the middle of the bush can help you work through
things and can lead to many little awakenings and I really needed to
help facilitate that for others through my music.
Are
you a Buddhist?
No. I
have had interest in religions but purely out of curiosity. I would
consider myself agnostic; I don’t think anyone really has all the
answers. I would actually be happy if all religion was wiped from the
earth tomorrow and we just started from scratch, simply living in
harmony with each other and nature. We seem to have a real need to be
told what to think and it would be great if we could collectively
rise above that and start thinking for ourselves.
You
moved from Sydney to the far north NSW coast a couple of years ago.
What prompted that move?
I was working in Sydney as a gardener, it was real heavy labour type work, and I decided I wanted more from life than that. I wanted to go and study something, so I decided to study Medicinal Science with the goal to be an Osteopath. There are only three schools in Australia that teach Osteopathy, two are in Melbourne and the other is in Lismore. Originally I was going to go to Melbourne because I just love that city and having spent four years there I was missing it. But Sydney kind of wore me out, it’s such a fast paced life living in a city and both Kobie and I decided we wanted a shift in the pace, so we chose to come to the northern rivers.
How are you finding life up there?
I was working in Sydney as a gardener, it was real heavy labour type work, and I decided I wanted more from life than that. I wanted to go and study something, so I decided to study Medicinal Science with the goal to be an Osteopath. There are only three schools in Australia that teach Osteopathy, two are in Melbourne and the other is in Lismore. Originally I was going to go to Melbourne because I just love that city and having spent four years there I was missing it. But Sydney kind of wore me out, it’s such a fast paced life living in a city and both Kobie and I decided we wanted a shift in the pace, so we chose to come to the northern rivers.
How are you finding life up there?
I love
it! We live on a few acres in the hills behind Byron Bay, we have 10
chickens, an orchard and vege garden. There are koalas in our
backyard, echidnas, all sorts of snakes, bandicoots and possums. We
have views over the Nightcap Ranges which is home to some of the most
magical pristine pockets of wilderness I have ever seen. It is an
amazing place to live. It’s hard when it comes to earning a living
though, not much work here. But that’s all right if you can live
cheaply and don’t have any vices.
What's
the doof scene like up there right now?
There
has been some serious trouble at doofs in this region for the last
few years. Basically there is nothing for young kids to do around
here so they go to doofs. It’s amazing how young the crowds are up
here. The violence is a big problem. There has been a lot of
stabbings, lots of robberies and lots of predatory behaviour. It has
kind of become too much. I mean, an AK47 was pulled out at a new
years party in 2011/12!
I wouldn’t feel safe taking my family to most doofs in this region, but there are exceptions and lately I have heard some good things have been happening, so there is still hope. Everything goes in cycles and I hope it returns to the once loving party scene it was.
I wouldn’t feel safe taking my family to most doofs in this region, but there are exceptions and lately I have heard some good things have been happening, so there is still hope. Everything goes in cycles and I hope it returns to the once loving party scene it was.
You've
had a recent addition to the family. Do you manage to get out to
party or play much at the moment?
I am
still taking a few bookings to play, but that is really the only time
I get out to doofs these days. I am really looking forward to taking
Arlo (my son) to a party. I think his first one will be Moontopia in
QLD at the end of this year.
How
has being a new father affected your production output? Do you still
produce as much as you did before fatherhood?
Surprisingly
I have written some of my best music since he was born. It’s all
written late at night with headphones on, but I think my output is
still the same, if not better than before he was born. It’s hard to
juggle uni, a family, and an artistic pursuit but with some good time
management it can be done. You have to really use your time wisely
when you have a child so if anything it has made me more productive
overall.
I
hear Arlo gets into your dark psy. Is he still into it?
Ha! Yes,
he loves it. He can be screaming wildly and I’ll put on the
fastest, most crazy darkpsy I can find and he just zones right out.
If I put on prog he screams louder. Definitely not a fan of prog.
What
other styles of music does he react to and what are those reactions?
I sat
down with him one day just after he was born and started running
through styles of music. He likes melodic psy, stuff like Talpa, and
he really likes folk music. He seemed to be a bit spun out by jazz, I
put on some Miles Davis and he started to look around with a strange
expression and act all scattered. But most other styles really calm
him down these days. He is a natural music lover! It’s been a real
buzz watching a human hear music for the first time.
What
other styles of music are you into, both for listening pleasure and
production?
I’m a
big jazz fan. I love moody, psychedelic jazz like Yusef Lateef or
Rashan Roland Kirk. I also really love folk music. Artists like Nick
Drake, Arlo Guthrie (my sons’ namesake) and Neil Young. There is a
heap of great music coming out of the U.S under the Neo-Folk banner
that has been exciting me lately, bands like Bowerbirds, Iron &
Wine and Andrew Bird. But pretty much any genre has its gold and I
can appreciate any style as long as it is made with creativity.
Why
does dark psy do it for you more than other styles of music?
Dark psy
for me is the ultimate dancefloor music. The drive and power it has
is perfect for long energetic dancefloor sessions. It is music that
is not about social interaction or standing around bopping away with
a beer in your hand, but about full trance experience. It really
allows me to go deep inside myself, leave my mind behind and lead
with my soul. It’s all about balance though, I really feel the need
for the melodic side of psy after a good night stomp.
When
did your love affair with music begin and what brought it about?
I was
immersed in music from birth. My father has this amazing record
collection, lots of old jazz, blues and rock. I grew up listening to
some really obscure music from the 60s and I became obsessed with
those records. I remember sitting there reading the covers and
memorising the artists. That music from my early years was such an
important part of my life. I don’t understand people who don’t
like music. In fact I don’t trust people who tell me they don’t
like music.
Judging
from some recent comments from you, I would assume that you're a bit
jaded with the psytrance scene. Is that a correct assumption?
It is I
guess. I feel it has lost a lot of its original intention. It seems
to be more about getting messy these days. It used to be about the
cathartic experience the music could facilitate. It was primal. The
music has become a bit stale for me, I don’t see much innovation in
the Australian psytrance scene. We seem to like dubstep and glitch
hop a bit too much as well. But there are still parties that I feel
are getting it right and I still love getting out and having a
weekend at a doof, just got to pick the right ones these
days.You've put
on many parties in the past. Any intentions of doing it again in the
future?
There
has been talk with a friend of throwing one up here to try and combat
the lack of anything experimental and psychedelic. I hope it comes
about.
What
occupies your time when you are not making music? I think you are
studying and making booze and cheese, correct?
Correct.
I have been making cheese, and trying my hand at brewing beer and
wine. Study takes up a lot of my time but when I can I try to get out
into nature and do a bit of bush walking and camping. I am also very
keen on growing vegies, and I have a bonsai collection so gardening
also takes up a bit of my time.
We've
had a few robust discussions about conspiracy theories and the state
of the world. I'm curious about how you feel about bringing a new
human into the world given the state it's in.
For many
years I was adamant I would not have a child because I saw the world
as hopeless. I thought bringing a child into this world would be
cruel. But then I started seeing friends have children and watching
them raise very conscious, aware children made me realise that the
world's hope lies in the hand of the next generation and the best
thing I could do for the world was to instil my child with the
knowledge of how to live in harmony with nature and all Earth's
inhabitants.I am actually very hopeful about the state of the world
right now. I see revolution happening everywhere. It is an exciting
time to be alive.
When
writers write or painters paint, it's often to express certain
feelings or convey certain messages. Music can do the same, but it
can also be more abstract. It can be more an ornamental thing, the
stuff we dance to. What does music mean to you? What motivates you to
make music?
Music is
life for me, I couldn’t imagine existence without it. It can give
me energy, bring me to tears or lull me to sleep. Certain songs can
transport me through time to a place I once stood, or to a future I
can envision. I have always used music creation as a way to tell my
story and release my creative essence. I just feel a real need to
write music and I don’t think it will ever stop.
I
like listening to the occasional track of yours, but for the
dancefloor it's too fast for me. Are you ever tempted by less BPMs?
I try to
write slower psytrance occasionally, but the tempo always creeps up
to about 170 bpm. Whenever I write any other style of psy it’s not
long before it has transformed into superfast darkpsy. I’m not sure
why that is.
And
as I finish writing that question I'm listening to one of your chill
tracks, Peace Of Mind. Love it. Do you make many chill tunes?
Yes, I
have been experimenting making some slower, more abstract tunes. I
want to create a kind of lush, cinematic, dreamy deep techno project
sometime in the future.
As
a creator of good music, how much do you hate dubstep? Or are you one
of those misguided people who thinks dubstep is good? Not being
biased here, I just... yeah, biased as hell. I just don't get
dubstep.
Haha!
I’m with you there, not a fan of dubstep. I dislike glitch hop even
more. There is some stuff I like that would be more in the ‘bass
music’ genre, like Burial or Marina Faib, but generally I cannot
stand dubstep.
Do
you get out on the dancefloor yourself? Who do you like to dance to?
Yes, I
love dancing. If I am at a party I will spend 90% of the time on the
dancefloor if the tunes are good. Music-wise I like intelligent
programming. I have had amazing dance experiences to international
artists like Kindzadza, Penta, Electrypnose, and Kashyyk.
On the
local front Dark Nebula never disappoints.
What
are your plans for the future, both musically and personally?
I am
currently writing my second album, and have a couple of compilation
releases planned for the next few months. I hope to keep building my
music career and get overseas at some point to perform. want to
finish my degree and see where that takes me. I want to spend as much
quality time being in love with my girlfriend Kobie and my son Arlo.
I want to re-connect with nature, and build towards a self-sustaining
future for my family. And I want to be happy and live a simple life
amongst the trees.